4 thoughts on “Friendly Fire

  1. Great point. I always think, when someone rails against a third-party candidate for taking Democratic votes, that if the candidate is so weak he or she can’t win in a field with many choices, then the candidate doesn’t deserve to win. Nader didn’t beat Gore in 2000, Gore beat Gore.

    But — your point is that if it weren’t for all the minor candidates, Dayton would be cruising. And does any liberal get mad at the Socialist Workers Party? No. Horner did what he needed to do — throw his hat in the ring and try to be governor and help the state. When the Dems voted in Dayton, we chose a weak candidate. As we do so often.

    RT woulda won easy.

    1. Joe Loveland says:

      BB, I’m note convinced about RT being a shoe-in. A bit too much of a slick metrosexual hipster liberal for much of the state, and perhaps for older people who Dayton won.

  2. Joe Loveland says:

    Yeah, my point isn’t that Dayton deserved those Green, Grassroots and Ecology Party votes. My point is that when citizens cast what they think is a principled vote for candidates that they know won’t win (Horner was not in this category), they risk unintended consequences that can be, ironically enough, counter to their principles. I find that whole phenomena interesting.

    I’m not really intending to scold anyone, just analyzing the current political situation, and the irony of it all.

  3. Joe Loveland says:

    The take by Eric Kieefeld at Talking Points Memo’s on the MN gubernatorial recount:

    My first (and very rough) impression, as someone who covered the (2008 Minnesota) Senate recount very extensively, is that Dayton should probably win. During the 2008 recount, the ranges of human error (typos in spreadsheets, ballots that the machines didn’t fully scan, etc.) were ultimately so minor — and distributed roughly equally — that the most they could manage was a swing of a few hundred votes out of 2.9 million ballots in that election. Minnesota’s election system is run well enough that 9,000 votes is probably too much to overcome.

    Then again, there’s always the chance that those 20 precincts could be really good for Emmer, and that some big errors could be found to make things even closer. In which case…well, at least Minnesota knows how to run these things.

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