21 thoughts on “Favreitism

  1. Dennis Lang says:

    I suspect narcissistic personality disorder is a frequent characteristic of those in the public spotlight, although Favre’s machinations and manipulations may be unprecedented in sport, bordering on a pathology. However, I doubt if any athlete needs the Favre example to assume the role of primadonna, and all things in life, business, and athletics are not always equal are they. The problem–if there is one–is not the brilliant, aging QB showing up when he does but the inexplicable, bizarre behavior, the waffling that invariably precedes it.

  2. Joe Loveland says:

    In the post-Favretism era, it’s not hard to imagine folks like Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Chad Johnson, and Manny Ramierez demanding similar treatment — no practice, just regular season — at the ends of their careers. And it’s not hard to imagine coaches and owners caving to them either because they think they can help their team win and/or because they think the resulting circus will put butts in seats.

    When you start to make practice and training optional, I gotta believe that future Hall of Famers with box office leverage will use the leverage to take the option.

    1. Dennis Lang says:

      Sure, Roger Clemons, and Pedro Martinez are just a couple examples of stars, in shape, showing up down the home stretch of the season, without the benefit of spring training– or the first 100 games. More interesting I think is the organization’s capacity to throw its self-respect out the window to close the deal–and that this approach, given the idiosyncrasies of this individual, is entirely justified.

      1. Joe Loveland says:

        The Favre Treatment works better in baseball, because that machinery is not as inter-related and cog-driven. A pitcher is a pretty autonomous piece of the machinery. Less true in basketball, hockey and football. Those guys really need some time together to work out chemistry and timing to make the machine operate in top form.

  3. PM says:

    So the question, to me, seems to be what good does training camp actually do? Is it necessary at all?

    I can understand how any individual athlete would like to avoid that additional work as well as that potential injury (while getting paid the same amount), but is there a loss from a team perspective? Is the unit less cohesive? Less capable and prepared?

    Perhaps the Vikings will be a good test of this. If they succeed, maybe more teams will go “training camp optional”. At the very least, it might become an important contract negotiating ploy.

  4. Joe Loveland says:

    Right, I think that’s an interesting question, PM.

    And the question is not just “does Favre need practice?” It’s also “does the TEAM need Favre at practice.” That is, do the folks who hike to him, block for him, take his handoffs and run his timing routes need practice time to learn and adjust to Favre’s ways, even if Favre is ready to go?

    But I don’t know, maybe the coaches overblow the importance of training and practice at the professional level?

  5. Mike Kennedy says:

    These guys are elite athletes and a few weeks in training camp is not going to matter much for conditioning. I think it is more to get reps to get comfortable again from a positional standpoint. I think the pre season games are as useless as training camp.

    The Strib had it right. The Vikings did what they needed to do. He wins them at least 3 or 4 more games than they win without him. They also had it right that he doesn’t need to even be as good as last year, given the weapons they have.

      1. Mike Kennedy says:

        Only when there is big news and only when it is sports. Of course, I did go online for the first time to the SPP as well today — the first time in nearly a year. Thank God papers still cover sports.

        Who was it that said he only reads the sports pages because it is the only place where man’s successes are chronicled?

        Come on. Someone help me out.

      2. Mike Kennedy says:

        It’s about the only thing Brett didn’t say yesterday. The guy does like to ramble, doesn’t he?

    1. Joe Loveland says:

      Strib columnist Jim Souhan’s observation about last night’s “Flat Thursday” (outstanding Strib headline) opener:

      “I thought our timing was a little bit off,” Favre said.

      And why would that be? Why would an offense that sliced through the NFL last year, that domianted two playoff defenses only eight months ago be “off?”

      Because Favre didn’t want to do the necessary work with buddies this summer. Because he shirked his duties as a teammate.

      Right now, Favre might have better rapport with those guys in the Wrangler’s commercials than with the receivers in purple.”

      A big downside of Childress’s Favretism model. Live by the prima donna, die by the prima donna.

      1. Dennis Lang says:

        Yeah, you called it. Lacking the Browns and Lions to open with–and gain “practice time”, an unwatchable performance worthy of Tavaris Jackson. Early in the third quarter off to Nadel pummeling his fellow countryman.

  6. Dennis Lang says:

    Right. Good point JL Baseball generally requires less of the synchronicity of other team sports. It’s said Farvre’s intimacy with this offense, the coordinator, and all the returning players further excuses his necessity for practice time, certainly demonstrated last season.

    1. Joe Loveland says:

      Hi Ike. Welcome back. I never was skeptical that Harvin had serious migraines. That was clearly a long-standing struggle for him. I was among those skeptical that he needed two weeks for the grieving and headaches. Most don’t seem to need that long.

      Based on yesterday, my skepticism may have been misplaced. Here’s to a clear diagnosis and effective treatment for the kid. Very scary situation.

  7. Dennis Lang says:

    Prescience or irony? “Live by the prima donna, die by the prima donna.” Loveland, 9/10/2010.

    “The season though was not lost on a Monday in Detroit…it was lost during those August days when Favre chose not to play, dooming the 2010 Vikings to a slow start and bad karma.” Jim Souhan, Star/Trib, 12/14/2010.

  8. Mike Kennedy says:

    Well, gotta disagree with Souhan on that. Favre did show up — it’s a number of guys in the secondary and on both the O and D lines that didn’t.

    What’s worse? Going MIA in training camp or during regular season games?

    1. Dennis Lang says:

      True MK. The team collectively sucked. I wonder though to what degree all the turn-overs, many of them attributable entirely to Favre’s careless play, and the subsequent losses in close, winnable games, contributed to the total deflation of a team one year ago only a “twelve-men in a huddle” penalty away from the Super Bowl. That said, Favre has to be one of the gutsiest people ever to play. professional sport.

  9. Mike Kennedy says:

    I agree, Dennis. All those years I’ve spent despising the Packers and their fans, one constant has remained — I’ve been a Brett Favre fan.

    He honestly loves the game and has more heart and guts than most athletes I’ve ever watched.

    I don’t often agree with Sid, but he recently said they don’t make many like Favre. He’s right.

  10. Joe Loveland says:

    New Vikings coach Leslie Frazier is anxious to end the vibe Childress’s Favretism set for the team:

    In his speech to the team Monday morning, Frazier stressed the importance of every player taking part in offseason workouts. Numerous players skipped the Organized Team Activities last offseason, which wide receiver Percy Harvin said taught the players a lesson.

    “I think everybody thought [with] everybody coming back that we just were magically going to make it to the Super Bowl this year,” said Harvin, who did not attend the workouts. “I think a lot of people got a wakeup call, myself included. So we’re all ready to get this thing rolling.”

    Offseason workouts are voluntary, but the low turnout by veterans set a negative tone for the season.

    “We really want to be all- inclusive,” Frazier said. “We want to be team-first. That means some guys are going to have to sacrifice some things this offseason to be a part of the team.”

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