40 thoughts on “Michele Bachmann, Denier

  1. PM says:

    And the scariest thing is that she actually represents a significant portion of the population of her district and Minnesota…..

    1. Dennis Lang says:

      I’m entirely baffled by the mentality that actually supports this woman. When spouting off grossly inaccurate statistics on Sunday morning talkshows re: the dire consequences of the healthcare reform, is she merely misinformed or intentionally lying? It must be the latter; she can’t be an elected official in public life and be that ignorant can she? Does this person have a conscience?

  2. Mike Kennedy says:

    The fact that it wasn’t on any tape nor were there an arrests for hate crimes nor were there any police officials who heard any racists comments doesn’t mean that it didn’t take place.

    What Bachmann should have done was say that any racist or homophobic comments made were despicable and hateful and that no party supports such a thing.

    What she should deny and make a strong case against is branding the Tea Party movement as racist, which has been the insinuation from both the far left and some media. The problem with Ms. Bachmann is she can’t differentiate between solid ground and stepping into horse…………

    1. Well said, as always, my friend.

      Not during the campaign, when at McCain Palin rallies people were saying hateful things, nor during this health care lie fest, has a national republican leader had the courage or decency to say what Mike writes above until, in the case of the health care vote rally, John Boehner, that mound of jello, finally said, two days later, similar words with all the enthusiasm of a kid made by his parent to apologize to another kid he joyfully just beat up.

      Republicans should argue against the link between racism and the Tea Party — but they don’t have the moral standing, because they’ve not condemned those who are racist and who do incite violence. They’re playing with fire, and we will all reap their whirlwind.

      1. Mike Kennedy says:


        It appears once again that hate and loathing runs on both sides. Here we have black members of the Tea Party being called “Oreos,” “Uncle Toms” and “Spooks at the Door” for daring to oppose policies of Mr. Obama.

        The whack jobs seem to be out in force this spring. The only difference is that I didn’t see much about this AP report in the mainstream news.

        Why? It’s every bit as racist, hateful and despicable as anything I’ve heard. But it might not fit the narrative.


  3. Momkat says:

    Does anyone know if sites like powerline get trolled by lefties? I’d look but my blood pressure couldn’t take it. I just wonder what Newt, Swift, and the like are doing here. ???

  4. Mike Kennedy says:

    You wonder what they are doing here?

    Would everyone with a contrary view to the left please leave this site. We don’t want anyone here who would disagree.
    Perhaps then the founders could change the name to:

    “The Same Rowdy Sycophants.”

  5. Joe Loveland says:

    I wouldn’t hang out here if there wasn’t a diversity of viewpoints. There’s a reason we didn’t call this space the Same Haughty Crowd.

  6. PM says:

    I also love the diversity of opinions, as well as the (relative) respect with which those opinions are expressed. The respect does not appear to diminish the strength of the expression.

  7. Glory Hole says:

    Diversity of viewpoints ought to be the goal here. But Newt and his ilk lose me when they cram their views through the comment Glory Hole and expect others to engage in an honest debate.

    Have a little courage in sharing your convictions, huh? Or, at least tell us why it’s necessary for you to express your views here anonymously.

    Me? My mom would not approve of my Glory Hole metaphor.

  8. I love that we have people who regularly disagree with the views of the majority of the writers and commenters of this Rowdy Crowd. There would be no Rowdy to it without strong disagreements. And I don’t think we should always be polite, maybe not even always respectful. We are passionate, we believe in different things, and we should be able to mock and slam one another once in awhile. And then listen to one another. Not all of the writers of this blog are lefties, and not all the lefties are consistently lefty. We argue with one another — probably not enough.
    I’d prefer people not be anonymous on this blog, but we decided from the start to allow that. We want varying viewpoints, differing experience.
    I’m tired of being both the preacher and the choir. I like a little rumble now and then, as my friend Mike Kennedy provides with such gusto.
    I think once in awhile people listen to — not just express — opposing views here, and that’s a priceless thing.

  9. Joe Loveland says:

    Blogger Wonkette reports that Governor Pawlenty bought the url “palinrally dot com,” which redirected browsers to Pawlenty’s site. Both brilliant and pathetic.

  10. […] But what really gets me rolling on the floor is Bachmann’s recent comment that there were no racial slurs, no spitting on African-American members of Congress when they walked to the Capitol to vote on healthcare reform. While being interviewed by her other BFF, Sean Hannity, Bachmann made this observation: “There were so many cameras there, Sean, no one recorded any racial motivation, and everything… […]

    1. Mike Kennedy says:

      I’m no Tea Party buff, but I watched that video many times now and before and didn’t see or hear much to get upset about.

      Spitting? It seems, as widely reported, the guy needs a lesson in “say it don’t spray it” rather than spitting. If there were racial insults, I didn’t hear them.

      I saw security around and no one seemed to be doing anything illegal. Loud? Yes. Annoying? Possibly, depending on your political leanings.

      I’m no more upset over this than the Left’s protests calling for Bush to be killed and hanging him in effigy. You might not like this sort of political speech, but it is speech.

      Reminds me of the “Magic Luggie” episode in Seinfeld. I still laugh every time I watch that sitcom.

      1. Ellen Mrja says:

        If you don’t see the representative react to some form of liquid (he even wipes it off) then I can’t help you. And people in the protest were, indeed, calling out the words “nigger” and “faggot” (to Barney Frank. See YouTube.)

        Of course this qualifies as “speech”..but it’s of the lowest order. I don’t know who you hang around with but my friends would never use words like these. Never.

        P.S. Added a few minutes later:

        Mike, I do not mean to imply that you are a hate-filled person. I know you and I don’t believe that to be true whatsoever. My point was that we must speak out when we see and hear “messages” like these. If not, we silently endorse it. These days I really fear we will be leaving our children and grandchildren one huge garbage pit for a nation.

  11. Ellen Mrja says:

    Dennis: They are, they say, angry American taxpayers who want to take their country back. Back from whom and to what is where problems begin to develop, in my opinion.

    Watch for them on Tax Day, April 15, when they plan demonstrations nationwide. I just pray it’s all peaceful.

    1. Mike Kennedy says:

      Again, the guy may have spit. I don’t know, but if the representative claims it………I certainly did not hear faggot or racist. If you did, you have better hearing than I. As I said in an earlier post, those things may have happened even if not recorded.

      However, the point of my post is that when hateful things are said and done, condemn it. I just hope you condemned all the nasty, vituperative language regarding Bush and the racist and hateful crap that the far left have called black members of the Tea Party.

      It is hypocritical of liberals or conservatives to castigate a part of society that disagrees with it when they don’t like something said that could be hateful, but then remain silent when their own ilk partakes.

      I am an equal opportunity basher. I can’t stand components of either the right or the left.

    1. Mike Kennedy says:


      I think it is a good summary. This whole cluster f…..has turned into a “He said. She said.”

      There isn’t any doubt in my mind that there could be some fringe elements on the right or in the tea party movement who would do such a thing. I believe disgusting acts are not limited to one party or organization.

      We’ll never truly know what happened; so it’s rather pointless to continue the discussion. Whack jobs in both parties (I mean ALL parties) need to learn to disagree without getting personal. Besides. It cuts down on the verbosity.

      “You’re wrong,” is much more economical than “You’re wrong, you ugly, hydra-headed sack of shit.”

      1. Dennis Lang says:

        Folks–Is nothing “real” anymore? Everything photo-shopped, manipulated, becoming “spin”? We’re all going to be living an episode of the “Twilight Zone” soon.

  12. Newt says:

    Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    Apr 12 06:30 PM US/Eastern
    Associated Press Writer

    ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) – Opponents of the fiscally conservative tea party movement say they plan to infiltrate and dismantle the political group by trying to make its members appear to be racist, homophobic and moronic.

    Jason Levin, creator of http://www.crashtheteaparty.org, said Monday the group has 65 leaders in major cities across the country who are trying to recruit members to infiltrate tea party events for April 15—tax filing day, when tea party groups across the country are planning to gather and protest high taxes.

    “Every time we have someone on camera saying that Barack Obama isn’t an American citizen, we want someone sitting next to him saying, ‘That’s right, he’s an alien from outer space!'” Levin said.

    Tea party members said the backlash comes from ignorance.

    “They can’t actually debate our message and that’s their problem,” said Bob MacGuffie, a Connecticut organizer for Right Principles, a tea party group that also has members in New York and New Jersey.

  13. Ellen Mrja says:

    Now that is scarey. I want America back, too. We are out-of-control. Hate breeds hate and is not the way. Tomorrow – Tax Day – is going to be ugly. And what’s with the threats of 9/12?

  14. PM says:

    Tea Party supporters’ fierce animosity toward Washington, and the president in particular, is rooted in deep pessimism about the direction of the country and the conviction that the policies of the Obama administration are disproportionately directed at helping the poor rather than the middle class or the rich.

    The overwhelming majority of supporters say Mr. Obama does not share the values most Americans live by and that he does not understand the problems of people like themselves. More than half say the policies of the administration favor the poor, and 25 percent think that the administration favors blacks over whites — compared with 11 percent of the general public.”

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